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Last post 07-19-2008, 11:47 PM by kcdpas. 17 replies.
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  •  05-01-2008, 4:21 PM 11430

    Online Education?

    I'm looking at doing my masters degree solely online due to working full time, but I don't want to waste my money and time if companies are going to see it as a joke.So,give me source from which i can get reliable information.
  •  05-01-2008, 7:55 PM 11442 in reply to 11430

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    Well, eLearners is a good start.  All the schools listed here are accredited.  If you need more check out Bear's Guide to Distance Education (google it) or just ask some specific questions...what major are you looking at?

    BTW there are a ton of reputable online programs from primarily campus based schools.  Everwhere from Penn State to Harvard to University of Florida.
  •  05-02-2008, 5:41 PM 11482 in reply to 11430

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    Re: Online Education?

    jacksondave39:
    I'm looking at doing my masters degree solely online due to working full time, but I don't want to waste my money and time if companies are going to see it as a joke.So,give me source from which i can get reliable information.

    Well, help us help you -- A Master's in what?  What other criteria do you have?  Type of accreditation?  Cost?  The more detail you provide, the more tailored a response you'll get.

    -=Steve=- 

  •  05-08-2008, 2:04 PM 11654 in reply to 11482

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    Heard that the state of Texas higher education coordinate board put California Coast U and Ashford U on diploma mill list and made all DETC accredited school illegal for job applicant put on their resume. That's a little scary. DETC should not allow Texas distroy their reputation, and I think they should take legal action against Texas HECB.
  •  05-09-2008, 1:33 PM 11686 in reply to 11654

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    That's not entirely correct.  In fact I have written the Tex Dept. of Ed. on this very issue.  Cal Coast was removed from the list as they have gained DETC accreditation.  DETC is in no way discriminated against by the Dept. and as far as I know Cal Coast was the only DETC school that was listed primarily due to the way they conducted business PRIOR to gaining accreditation.

     

    Ashford University on the other hand is not on the list at all (according to them) but instead a diploma mill called Ashford University which operated for a short time.  They have a disclaimer in the text to the far right of the list that says something akin to "not the real Ashford University in Clinton, IA which is regionally accredited" or some such.  Honestly I have written them to ask them to remove the school from the list completely as fake Harvard and Stanford degrees are not on the list even though both have had mills steal their names in the past.  Maybe one day if I can show that it hurts Ashford or Ashford alumni I will seek a lawyer of some sort requesting the school be removed.  Right now I don't have that type of time or that kind of money.  

  •  05-12-2008, 12:07 AM 11733 in reply to 11686

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    I wrote a letter to DETC and asked how they feels about the Texas Higher Education Coordinate Board diploma mill list. Here is the reply (I have asked the person's permission to put the letter on the Onlline Ed blog, but have not heard the answer, so I will publish the her here):

    Here is the content of DETC person's reply:

    Dear KC:

    You have asked about the effects of a Texas law that was intended to protect citizens against diploma mills. This good intention was coupled with a requirement that State Government involve itself in determining which schools fit this category.  Rather than relying on the agencies approved by the U.S. Secretary of Education, who is charged by Federal law to publish a list of accrediting bodies as “reliable authorities as to the quality of education or training,” the Texas Board created its own private list of approved accreditors, ultimately recognizing only regional accrediting bodies and a few specialized groups.

    DETC has never, in its more than half century of its accrediting program, accredited a “diploma mill.” In fact, states like Wyoming and Louisiana have turned to DETC to help them rid their state of diploma mill operations.

    Students with degrees from DETC accredited schools should not worry about facing prosecution from the state of Texas. The law has been in effect since 2005, and our best judgment is that the record of zero prosecutions in this area will continue.

    DETC recently had its Secretarial recognition extended without condition for five years, the maximum permitted. DETC institutions’ courses and degrees are evaluated and approved by experts in the field, including professors at regionally accredited universities.   

    The situation in Texas is unfortunate and DETC hopes that it changes. In the meantime, DETC does not see reason for concern about the effects of this law.  Texas has not used the law to prosecute students to date.

    Texas has positioned itself under its own laws to be a better judge of accrediting agency merit than the U.S. Department of Education, which is far better equipped to evaluate accrediting agencies and has been doing so for over half a century. Texas also bypasses the evaluations of the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA, a private body whose assessments are considered comparable to those of the U.S. Government.

    Sincerely,

  •  05-12-2008, 9:19 PM 11751 in reply to 11430

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    You just need to make sure the school is properly accredited by an legitmate institution (USDoE,CHEA). Also, make sure with your HR for guideline about your company specific requirement on accreditation. Good luck.

    Here is the URL link to accreditation verification page: http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Search.asp

  •  05-13-2008, 11:45 AM 11763 in reply to 11751

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    Re: Online Education?

    KC,

    I mostly agree, provided we're talking about American schools.  If a foreign school meets one's needs then accreditation may not be present, since in many countries authorization comes from the Ministry of Education instead (which is then considered the equivalent to regional accreditation). 

    That said, all schools listed at eLearners are accredited by an agency approved by the U.S. Department of Education.

    -=Steve=- 

  •  05-13-2008, 12:30 PM 11773 in reply to 11733

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    As much as I love Texas, education wise this is one of the more screwed up states out there.  Personally I cannot wait until the State is sued in this regard.
  •  05-13-2008, 9:42 PM 11793 in reply to 11773

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    Cajun:
    As much as I love Texas, education wise this is one of the more screwed up states out there.  Personally I cannot wait until the State is sued in this regard.

    Yes, they are cowboys and ought to be some what different:). DETC is not likely sueing them. As in the letter, no one ever got procesuted for putting DETC degree on their resume when apply a job in Texas.

  •  05-30-2008, 3:56 PM 12203 in reply to 11733

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    Thanks for posting this.  I was going to post a new message to see if anything new had happened with regard to the Texas' position and their list of diploma mills. 

     Nana in Texas  

  •  07-18-2008, 10:47 AM 13373 in reply to 11686

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    Online education is necessary in these days. Students do not have time for education that is why they can spare their time. There is so much to be learned from one another.

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  •  07-18-2008, 4:57 PM 13380 in reply to 12203

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    Nana, July 24, 2008 is the date that the THECB will be reviewing recognition of DETC and like accrediting agencies...good things are expected.

  •  07-18-2008, 4:58 PM 13381 in reply to 13373

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    Anrik, welcome to elearners.  If you get a second post an introduction in the getting to know you section if you have the time. 
  •  07-19-2008, 12:25 AM 13387 in reply to 13380

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    Cajun:

    Nana, July 24, 2008 is the date that the THECB will be reviewing recognition of DETC and like accrediting agencies...good things are expected.

    Glad to hear that. The THECB should recognize DETC, it has been long over due without a valid reason. Yahoo!!!

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