facetious:

Okay, I am not trying to be rude AT ALL... but I see a lot of "positive" comments regarding the University of Phoenix, and I simply cannot agree.  I honestly think that the school (even though I'm sure the actual curriculum is not), is viewed as a joke.  I currently attend Bellevue University in Omaha, NE, and would highly recommend their onling programs for anyone.  They seem to have a good reputation, as far as I know, and although they may not be the most "prestigous" school in Nebraska (although that is kind of a moot point), they are also not viewed at as a joke.  Also, the tuition is extremely reasonable.  Although I attend traditional campus classes, I believe the online classes are modeled the same, and my entire year was around 10,000.00.  Just a thought.

Have you ever attended UoP? I think if you don't have first hand experiences with UoP, than your opinion were formed from unsubstantiated facts.Bellevue has the same accreditation as UoP. I don't think it is fair for you to disagree with other people who had positive experience with UoP, The student is the most important factor in any school. I have attended UoP campus program in southern Cal and my company paid majority of the tuition. To tell you the truth, if the company does not pay, I would attend Cal State U for sure due to the affability reason alone. Now, I just been accepted with Cal State University Fullerton's Steven Mihaylo College of Business and Economics with AACSB accreditation. The point I am making here is, simply, the student need determination and hard work, don't blame it all on a school if any one fails. Harvard and Yale grads are not all successful. If you only put in $10 dollars worth of efforts, in return, you will get $10 or less of knowledge.

I have to be fair, UoP's advertising and enrollment standard are questionable. They are a for profit school, I guess they will accept any one who has the money and want a degree. I have commented before on this site, but I wanted to stress it again. If only one percent of unqualified students UoP accepted just because they are willing to pay the money, it equals 3000 and likely they will fail down the road.I could not understand your biased opinion toward UoP. Without UoP, many will not be able to complete their education.

kcdpas:

Bellevue has the same accreditation as UoP. 

Actually, in addition to being regionally accredited, the University of Phoenix also has ACBSP accreditation for its business programs.  Not that I personally think ACBSP is all that exciting, but it's relevant, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

-=Steve=-

SteveFoerster:

kcdpas:

Bellevue has the same accreditation as UoP. 

Actually, in addition to being regionally accredited, the University of Phoenix also has ACBSP accreditation for its business programs.  Not that I personally think ACBSP is all that exciting, but it's relevant, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

-=Steve=-

Yes, UoP also has special nursing accreditation. Any way, the UoP haters will always be UoP haters. People are pretty much indifferent about seen and hear their rants and raves by now. Oh by the way, I have good news to share with you: I have officially accepted by California State University Fullerton's graduate school-Steven Mihaylo College of Business and Economics' MSIT program starting Fall 2008. They are AACSB accredited. I would like personally thank you for all the advice and your valuable insight with higher education in general. Thank you!

kcdpas:

SteveFoerster:

kcdpas:

Bellevue has the same accreditation as UoP. 

Actually, in addition to being regionally accredited, the University of Phoenix also has ACBSP accreditation for its business programs.  Not that I personally think ACBSP is all that exciting, but it's relevant, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

-=Steve=-

Yes, UoP also has special nursing accreditation. Any way, the UoP haters will always be UoP haters. People are pretty much indifferent about seen and hear their rants and raves by now. Oh by the way, I have good news to share with you: I have officially accepted by California State University Fullerton's graduate school-Steven Mihaylo College of Business and Economics' MSIT program starting Fall 2008. They are AACSB accredited. I would like personally thank you for all the advice and your valuable insight with higher education in general. Thank you!

 

Good luck to you. 

Thanks Cajun,

You and Steve are most valuable consolers for me:) and you guys should consider a second career as an adviser of higher education especially in the area of distance learning.

Best regards,

 

Thanks for the compliment, I'm glad we could help.

Thanks!   And good luck at CSU-Fullerton!

-=Steve=-

SteveFoerster:

Thanks!   And good luck at CSU-Fullerton!

-=Steve=-

You bet, and I will make it through by 2010. This is a 20 month program, and with little scarifies (skip Monday night football:) and such) I could smell the victory.

OmegaLynn:

How good is the University of Phoenix as far as their bachelors and masters degrees goes with employers?

I am considering enrolling, but I want to find out all I can before I do.

Thanks.

It depends. I did not have any problem with my BSIT degree from UoP and my employer paid for it. If I have to pay it myself, I will not go there. Some companies may not treat UoP as equal. I truly belief that your success in your company does not depend on a UoP degree or a degree from any college for that matter. If you are a dedicated employee and well perceived by your boss and colleagues, a degree just the icing on a cake. In contrary, a Stanford PhD won't do you any good if no one likes you at work. UoP is a none conventional university, the way of teaching is controversial. It is a fact. If that cause your concern, go to a public school in your state. It will cost you far less and with guaranteed acceptance. That is my advice. Before sign up with UoP, check with your employer first. UoP does have proper accreditation North and Central for their BS and their MBA program has ACBSP accreditation. So, transfer should not be a problem. I took GRE and currently accepted by Cal State University for my master of science degree starting this fall. They have accepted UoP accredits as well. Good luck with your education.

It is true that there is a low standard of acceptance at UoP and yes, they are a private university (for profit) as is Harvard. 

There are many grateful people who worked hard to get their degree in spite of a family of three to support on a single income from a third-shift, factory job.  Today, having a degree, regardless of the program of study, opens more avenues in the workplace. 

On the other hand, yes the banner ads that are plastered all over the web poised for the "clicking", are a bit unethical when they are attached to a sweepstakes contest.  I have spoken to people who were promised a free snickers bar, and were enrolled in college instead. 

An entire year at UoP AA programs is only $8,200.00 per year, so it is not insanely espensive and it is actually less than Belleview.  The average university is $12,000 annually to attend. 

My advice, if you are having difficulties fitting school into your life and have the discipline to READ, take advantage of this stepping stone.  See it as an opportunity.  With $360,000 students currently, our own NFL football stadium, and the #1 ranked spot in the country for all higher educational institutions...all those people cannot be wrong. 

Ignorant statements such as,

"I honestly think that the school (even though I'm sure the actual curriculum is not), is viewed as a joke."

are subject to perception.  Who's "view" are we talking about here?  "Even though I'm sure" is such a vague assumption.  There are bold claims without reference or personal experience.  I hope you are in fact getting an "education" that teaches you how to think, because critical thinking is one of the second courses you take at UoP.  With this business model doing so well, it is easy to see why other institutions will do everthing in their power to mimic it's success for their gain.  Watch out!  UoP is fully regionally accredited here in the U.S. is Belleview?

sindeez:

It is true that there is a low standard of acceptance at UoP and yes, they are a private university (for profit) as is Harvard. 

There are many grateful people who worked hard to get their degree in spite of a family of three to support on a single income from a third-shift, factory job.  Today, having a degree, regardless of the program of study, opens more avenues in the workplace. 

On the other hand, yes the banner ads that are plastered all over the web poised for the "clicking", are a bit unethical when they are attached to a sweepstakes contest.  I have spoken to people who were promised a free snickers bar, and were enrolled in college instead. 

An entire year at UoP AA programs is only $8,200.00 per year, so it is not insanely espensive and it is actually less than Belleview.  The average university is $12,000 annually to attend. 

My advice, if you are having difficulties fitting school into your life and have the discipline to READ, take advantage of this stepping stone.  See it as an opportunity.  With $360,000 students currently, our own NFL football stadium, and the #1 ranked spot in the country for all higher educational institutions...all those people cannot be wrong. 

Ignorant statements such as,

"I honestly think that the school (even though I'm sure the actual curriculum is not), is viewed as a joke."

are subject to perception.  Who's "view" are we talking about here?  "Even though I'm sure" is such a vague assumption.  There are bold claims without reference or personal experience.  I hope you are in fact getting an "education" that teaches you how to think, because critical thinking is one of the second courses you take at UoP.  With this business model doing so well, it is easy to see why other institutions will do everthing in their power to mimic it's success for their gain.  Watch out!  UoP is fully regionally accredited here in the U.S. is Belleview?

I concur, but just make sure you don't work for Intel and some other large corporations that put UoP and Devry on none-reimbursable (tuition) school list. Check with the employer fist before signing up and ensure there won't be any surprises down the road.

sindeez:

It is true that there is a low standard of acceptance at UoP and yes, they are a private university (for profit) as is Harvard.

Wow, they're nothing like Harvard.  Their target market is completely different, their source of funding is completely different, their pedagogy is completely different, their business objectives are completely different, and the values of one of their degrees in a labor market is completely different.  And their tax status also, of course, even though you imply otherwise.

An entire year at UoP AA programs is only $8,200.00 per year, so it is not insanely espensive and it is actually less than Belleview.  The average university is $12,000 annually to attend.

I assume you mean their Axia College subsidiary?

My advice, if you are having difficulties fitting school into your life and have the discipline to READ, take advantage of this stepping stone.  See it as an opportunity.  With $360,000 students currently, our own NFL football stadium, and the #1 ranked spot in the country for all higher educational institutions...all those people cannot be wrong.

"the #1 ranked spot in the country for all higher educational institutions"?  The only measure that could possibly be is number of students, and that doesn't tell you a thing about educational quality generally or whether a school meets someone's specific needs.  Just because more people eat at McDonalds than any other restaurant in the country doesn't mean it's the best one.

Ignorant statements such as, "I honestly think that the school (even though I'm sure the actual curriculum is not), is viewed as a joke." are subject to perception.  Who's "view" are we talking about here?  "Even though I'm sure" is such a vague assumption.  There are bold claims without reference or personal experience.

And what kind of whopper is "all those people cannot be wrong"?  Of course they could be wrong!  Or, some of them could be right and others wrong, since their individual situations vary.

I hope you are in fact getting an "education" that teaches you how to think, because critical thinking is one of the second courses you take at UoP.  With this business model doing so well, it is easy to see why other institutions will do everthing in their power to mimic it's success for their gain.  Watch out!  UoP is fully regionally accredited here in the U.S. is Belleview?

It's "Bellevue", and yes, it is accredited and by the very same accreditor as Phoenix.  I do agree that other schools might envy Phoenix's student population numbers and financial success, and I don't think that Phoenix is inherently bad like some of its detractors do, but wow, your rhetoric is totally over the top, especially for someone extolling the virtues of critical thinking.

-=Steve=-

I concur with Steve 100%.  UofP has their place and a market.  They are not a substitute for Harvard as they are not a substitute for Bellevue.  I find value in what UofP does and generally consider them a pioneer in adult education but I do find their marketing and sometimes their people to be overly aggressive.  They need to realize that selling an opportunity to get an education is not like selling a box of cereal.  More is not always better.