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Can anyone recommend a good online school?

Last post 04-30-2008, 12:56 PM by SteveFoerster. 12 replies.
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  •  04-24-2008, 1:30 PM 11146

    Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Hello all,

    I am helping my husband research online degree programs - he has approximately 61 credits from a RA 2 year college (he still needs to get his math credits, ick!!)

    Here's what he's looking for in a Bachelors program:

    He would prefer a Business Management degree preferably in Operations Management.   

    No proctored exams

    Not a cohort style of learning program

    Accelerated  (He needs to get it done asap!!)

    100% online

    Regionally accredited school with a good reputation.

    Good to great customer service. 

    A school that's upper level division courses don't have a lot of prerequisites.

    He's looking at Southwestern College (thanks to Cajun).  Do they have a good reputation? 

    Thanks in advance!!!

    Deb 

     

     

  •  04-25-2008, 12:43 PM 11178 in reply to 11146

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    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Sullivan University and Warner Southern College also have Bachlelor's degrees in Operations Management:

    http://www.elearners.com/online-degrees/operations-management.htm

    -=Steve=- 

  •  04-25-2008, 1:44 PM 11183 in reply to 11178

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Thank you very much Steve!! I will have him check both of these out?  Do you know anything about these two or Southwestern for that matter?  If so, what school would you recommend?

    Thanks again!!

    Deb

  •  04-25-2008, 3:09 PM 11185 in reply to 11183

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    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    I don't know much about them beyond that both of them are regionally accredited.  Also, if your husband is Christian he may want to look more closely at Warner Southern since it's a Christian institution, but otherwise they seem comparable.

    -=Steve=-

  •  04-25-2008, 8:26 PM 11194 in reply to 11146

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about Southwestern.  I cannot recommend them highly enough, however be aware that they are a college who practices research papers and lots of them.  Most if not all of their programs are also capstone, meaning you have a course developed as a comprehensive research course which is a lot of fun but also a ton of work.

     Also Ashford University has a pretty open credit transfer policy at the undergrad level as they will accept up to 99 credits towards a BS  http://www.ashford.edu/online/transferrability.php

     

     What other questions can I answer for you?

  •  04-26-2008, 1:26 AM 11210 in reply to 11194

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Hi Cajun,

    I'm very happy you replied because I found out about Southwestern College from you (even though you didn't realize it!!) So thank you!Big Smile

    What exactly do you mean about research papers? Did you do more writing and researching that studying for quizzes and exams? How was there customer service, specifically academic advisiors. How was the acclerated class work load for you? How many hours did you put in a week per course? Anything you can share that we need to watch out for or be aware of, or any great experience you had would be greatly appreciated!!

    As far as Ashford goes, how do the credits above a 2 year degree (60 or so credits), unless they are jr. or sr. level college courses, transfer in?  He did apply there, and he's been e-mailing his enrollment advisor because they had his start date wrong, and he hasn't heard back from him.  I also read reviews of the college on online degree reviews.com that 50% people love Ashford and 50% hate it.  I know you love it and I'm glad your having a wonderful experience! But not hearing back from him concerns me.  He's busy like everyone one else and I hate for him to deal with this kind of stuff while working full time and raising a family and going to school to boot!!

    I apologize for all the questions and I learned more on this forum about DL than anywhere else.  So thanks to all the members!!

     Deb 

    (p.s. Sorry about any spelling mistakes on this - I can't get my spell checker to work and I'm a horrible speller!!)

     

     

  •  04-26-2008, 4:26 PM 11220 in reply to 11210

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Okay I’m going to answer these one at a time to the best of my ability.

     

    (question) What exactly do you mean about research papers? Did you do more writing and researching that studying for quizzes and exams?

     

    (answer) Almost all of my coursework was in the form of research papers.  Usually between 2 and 8 pages each.  I had one research paper due per week per class and the classes were in 6 week formats, so I recommend one at a time unless you are a glutton for punishment.  Be aware that the last week always had the largest assignment or paper due.  I did get some quizzes but they were few and far between and often they did not replace the research paper that week.  I usually had 2 to 3 discussion questions to answer and reply to my peers (2 to 3 of them) per week.  It was a pretty hectic workload but it can be done.  Expect to spend at least 10 hours per week on each course.  If you take 2 courses you’re looking at an easy 20 hours per week doing school work.  It basically becomes a second job.  By the way, 10 hours per week is only possible if you schedule ahead and be disciplined, otherwise you may find yourself spending as much as 15 to 20 hours a week per course if you do not set goals for yourself and learn the best method of study that works for you. 

     

    (question) How was there customer service, specifically academic advisors? 

     

    (answer) They were positively wonderful.  However I was told 3 times that my credits would not transfer to their school before I went ahead and applied anyways, submitted my transcripts then spoke with the dean of admissions (hard to do at a larger school) about the transfer credits for the college that they wouldn’t accept prior.  They reversed their decision and accepted all of my credits.  So in short they are great but that doesn’t mean that you will find an obstacle free experience.  No school will give you that.

     

    Southwestern College has been one of the most worthwhile experiences of my life.  I would love for my kids to go there and that’s saying a lot.  The college itself is set in a small town that feels an awful lot like Mayberry off of the Andy Griffith show, it’s really a cool place to go visit and the college itself has a lot of unique and interesting traditions that are a lot of fun to be a part of. 

     

     

    (question)  As far as Ashford goes, how do the credits above a 2 year degree (60 or so credits), unless they are jr. or sr. level college courses, transfer in? 

     

    (answer)  I’m not really sure, you’d have to speak with an advisor on that.  Sorry.

     

    (question)  He did apply there, and he's been e-mailing his enrollment advisor because they had his start date wrong, and he hasn't heard back from him.

     

    (answer)  Unfortunately there are poor enrollment advisors in any college but don’t let that dissuade you.  Stay on top of them and if you feel the need ask for a supervisor and tell the supervisor you want a different enrollment advisor and be sure and tell them why.  I’ve done this before and although you feel like a jerk, it’s your education we’re talking about.  If you don’t feel you’re getting the service you need, let them know.  Trust me; Ashford has a customer focus second to no school I’ve ever seen elsewhere.  Don’t accept a blow off from some halfwit enrollment advisor who insists on collecting a paycheck without doing their job and don’t let one bad apple ruin the school for you.  I will say that I have not experienced this with Ashford myself.

     

    (question)  I also read reviews of the college on online degree reviews.com that 50% people love Ashford and 50% hate it. 

    (answer)  Do you have a link?  There was a guy at another degree forum that used to make a career of misinformation and singing his song of woe about Ashford.  In fact I caught him doing so under multiple different user ID’s which just smacks of a lack of integrity and really sounds like he’s got a personal bone to pick.  If you provide a link maybe I can provide some insight. 

    (question)  I know you love it and I'm glad your having a wonderful experience! But not hearing back from him concerns me.  He's busy like everyone one else and I hate for him to deal with this kind of stuff while working full time and raising a family and going to school to boot!!

    (answer)  Honestly it should concern you.  It’s hard enough going to school without dealing with people who throw up obstacles for you at every turn.  Take my advice above and see how they react.  Call, don’t email.  Insist on speaking with a human being who is in a position to make decisions.  If the school doesn’t know about the problem then they cannot fix it.  If you speak to a supervisor however and they still blow you off, wash your hands of them and let me know. 

     

    I hope that helps.

  •  04-26-2008, 6:49 PM 11229 in reply to 11220

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Hello again Cajun,

    Here is the link you requested regarding the student reviews of Ashford.  I feel bad about doing this because I know you love your school. It seems people either love it or hate it, nothing in between.

     http://www.onlinedegreereviews.org/college/ashford-university/reviews/

     I just want to make sure where ever my husband goes, that it goes as smoothly as possible.  Ashford may work for him as well.  So he's trying to decide between Ashford and Southwestern. He wants an acclerated program so he can get it done and he really can't do a lot cohort style learning or on campus learning because sometimes he travels for business or has people he has to entertain after work one night a week, mainly in the fall and winter.

    Would there be a problem transferring to a  business graduate program with either one of these schools??

    He requested that his official transcripts be sent to Ashford.  I just wish someone would tell him where he stands before he actually starts.  He actually has 87 credits, but at most colleges, 27 or so of those credit wouldn't be accepted because they were more from a technical college rather than a college, that now has changed to an RA Community College.  So if Ashford takes these credits and this shortens his time up to get a degree, then that would be great.

    His last hurdle before he does anything is to take the Accuplacer test for math and hopefully he can get into the class he needs and then he can get his Associates of General Studies degree.

    If anyone is interested, I can recommend a RA online community college that's cheap and he had wonderful service from (neither one of us work there, the school is probably 800 or so miles away from us) but I believe it's only $74 a credit for online students.

    Sorry about the "book" and thank you for all your help.  Anyone else, please feel free to jump in as well. 

     I admire all of you for going to school while working full time and are raising families!!

      Deb 

       

     

     

  •  04-26-2008, 8:43 PM 11230 in reply to 11229

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Deb I read that link.  I mostly focused upon the bad reviews looking for some kind truth to everything.  I don’t doubt them all but I am suspicious of people who cannot give specific examples or who post under “anonymous”.  I will tell you about 1 problem that I had at Ashford, they funded my 2008 financial aid without my needing it as I had prepaid.  I did use financial aid last year though so I guess they assumed I would be using it this year.  I made 1 phone call and marked “return to sender” on the check.  Afterwards I received an email asking why I had marked my refund check “return to sender”.  I told them to speak with my financial advisor as I had already explained everything to him and that they were never supposed to fund the money in the first place.  They apologized and assured me it would be fixed.  I called a week later to make sure that they refunded the money to the lender and they did.  End of story.

    I have had similar small mistakes being made by Southwestern, though I cannot remember right off hand.  Suffice to say mistakes will happen regardless of which school you choose, just make sure you call and communicate your wishes to them.  Even the best colleges can be quite bureaucratic as you can imagine but with the smaller schools such as Southwestern and Ashford it’s easy to get hold of someone in charge.

     

    As for the guy who posted that Ashford was “easy” and that some of the other students could not write or were not literate.  I have not found my experience to be easy.  In fact grueling would probably be a better description.  My MBA program has not been light weight in the least and there a couple of times I really doubted my decision to enter the program as I was struggling so much.  I even failed a couple of assignments.  So yes it is possible to fail and people do fail, including yours truly.  But I knuckle down and work my butt off to pull my grades back up, but not everyone makes it.

     

    As for having peers in class who struggle, this is somewhat true.  You see this is an open university, meaning that they will accept most people entering a program but they will not spoon feed you and you can fail out.  Just because they get into the program does not mean that they finish or succeed whatsoever.  It’s kind of like the ocean, anyone can jump in but not everyone can swim. 


    By the way you’ll find that at Southwestern as well, they are a bit more selective in the admissions process but it still isn’t difficult to get into their program.  They are both pretty much on even ground in this regard.  But be aware that people can and have failed out of programs at both schools.  Not everyone I started with will be finishing with me.  It’s just the nature of the beast.

     

    Let me put it like this.  As far as quality I consider Southwestern and Ashford to be on equal footing.  I do not prefer one over the other, they are both fantastic schools.  In fact I am even considering going back to Southwestern for their Masters of Science in Leadership.  One thing about Southwestern that you should know upfront though, they are more concerned with the “holistic” professional than Ashford is.  When Ashford says you are going to study business, you will be all about business.  Southwestern however will start you off in self development in courses like Responsibility for the Future and Adults in Transition which as a class both really helped me to develop as a person.  So I guess you have to look at the curriculum and see if it fits your beliefs, values and needs.  Not everyone likes that kind of stuff.  Also look at the price, last I checked Southwestern was slightly less expensive than Ashford so there is that to consider as well.  All in all only you can determine which would be the best school for you.  I’m just trying to steer you clear of the B.S. out there, and I don’t mean “Bachelors of Science”.    

  •  04-27-2008, 10:09 AM 11249 in reply to 11210

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    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Carldeb:
    Sorry about any spelling mistakes on this - I can't get my spell checker to work and I'm a horrible speller!!

    I'm in the same boat.  What I did was switched web browsers from Internet Explorer to Firefox, which is free, more secure, and has a built in spell checker.

    As for bad reviews of school, they all have them.  Some school employee has an off day, whoever runs into them gets upset about it and develops a bad impression, it happens.  It's more accurate to go with the general thrust of opinion.

    -=Steve=- 

  •  04-29-2008, 12:27 AM 11312 in reply to 11230

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Hi Cajun,

    I just want to be fair and report that Ashford's enrollment advisor called my husband tonight without any additional prompting!! Big Smile

    Thanks for you your advice and Steve's as well! I hope I don't turn into a pest, but as you can tell, I like to ask a lot of questions!!

    Deb

  •  04-29-2008, 5:32 PM 11327 in reply to 11312

    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    I'm glad to hear they followed through.  Better to ask questions now rather than find out the hard way later.
  •  04-30-2008, 12:56 PM 11369 in reply to 11312

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    Re: Can anyone recommend a good online school?

    Carldeb:
    Thanks for you your advice and Steve's as well! I hope I don't turn into a pest, but as you can tell, I like to ask a lot of questions!!

    No worries -- it's better to have a thousand questions ahead of time than a thousand regrets afterward!

    -=Steve=- 

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