AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

Engineer55 — Wed, 09 May 2007 23:36:34 GMT

There is a third accreditor for business schools and that is the IACBE. I have known many people who received degrees from IACBE schools who have done very well. There are also some high-up individuals at Intel which have degrees fom IACBE Schools and ACBSP schools. It is the same old song, If you have significant work experience, and interview well, you will get the job. If you are changing careers, You are seen as no experience and they will look at where you went to school as gospel. Get the degree from an accredited school (with no degree you have no chance), and prove to them you have the drive to succeed.

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

helenh — Fri, 11 May 2007 13:21:39 GMT

Looks like UOP has ACBSP accreditation! Take a look:

http://www.acbsp.org/index.php?mo=st&op=ld&sid=s1_025about&stpg=141&par=4237

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

Cajun — Sat, 12 May 2007 05:55:15 GMT

Funny, it is my understanding that Intel will not fund students going to UofP because they consider them to be 2nd rate even though they are ACBSP, yet they will accept an IACBE school? (in my best Sgt. Schultz voice)....Very interesting

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

sparscale — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:29:34 GMT

Hello:

I am Steve Parscale, Director of Accreditation for ACBSP. I must apologize to Scott. I am sorry the ACBSP brochure did not answer your question. I have sent the link to the brochure to many students before with positive responses, so I assumed it would answer your questions. It may answer some of your questions as the reader so I will place the link here for you: "Discover ACBSP" Brochure

ACBSP was formed in 1988 from 150 business school in the United States that had a primary mission of teaching. business processes to students. These business schools did not have a business research mission. In the 1980s AACSB would only accredited business schools with a mission to conduct business research. So these 150 Deans decided if they could not get AACSB accredited they would form an association that would accredit business schools that had a mission of teaching excellence verses research excellence.

ACBSP was recognized by the United States Department of Education as a quality accrediting association in 1992. The Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) (www.chea.org) recognizes both ACBSP and AACSB as quality accrediting associations.

The ACBSP standards and criteria that business schools are evaluated against to determine if they can be accredited, or not, are based on the Baldrige Educational Criteria for Performance Excellence http://baldrige.nist.gov/

You can get a copy of the ACBSP standards and criteria at this link: Accreditation Standards for Baccalaureate/Graduate Schools 2004

The following six areas are evaluated at every business school in candidacy for accreditation to determine if they have systematic processes, full implementation, evaluations of results, and use of results to make decisions to improve processes.

Leadership

Strategic Planning

Student and Stakeholder Focus

Measurement and Analysis of Student Leaning and Performance

Faculty and Staff Development

Educational and Business Pr4ocess Management

The process for accreditation can be downloaded from this link: Accreditation Standards for Baccalaureate/Graduate Schools 2004

A benefit that comes to me as a mental picture of attending and graduateing from an ACBSP accredited school is the following: I am sitting in a large research institutions (an “A” list school) classroom with 200 other students. The professor assigned to teach my class in conducting research so his or her graduate assistant is teaching me. Or I can visualize sitting at a school with a teaching mission in a classroom with 26 students and the professor assigned to teach my class is in the classroom with me.

This is already to long for a blog so I will stop. If you have more question please email me at sparscale@acbsp.org or cal me at 913-339-9356.

Thank you for your time.

Steve Parscale

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

sparscale — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:34:18 GMT

Hello one more time

I notice most of the links I entered did not stay hot in the blog. Please email me at sparscale@acbsp.org and I will send you the message above so you can open the links if you want them?

Thanks,

Steve

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

WheelCipher — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:48:39 GMT

I sent the following message to Steve this morning after he did take the time to clear up some things (which we all appreciate very much)

Thanks a ton for following up. This sheds some light on a concern that I and other people have regarding accreditation. I do appreciate your perspective on things and I am glad we've had the opportunity to go over these things. I hope that you do see my point as someone who is looking for a quality education, and accreditation that will be accepted with major employers. I'll make an analogy here (even a weak one at that). If you have several established automobile manufacturers (i.e. Ford, Chevy, Toyota, etc ...) who have been around forever and own a majority of the market share in their respective business, then all of a sudden a new manufacturer comes along and introduces a product into an already saturated market, people are going to investigate on their own to see why this new guy on the block is worthy of competing with the established businesses. Furthermore, It will be the responsibility of that new guy to sell their product to those who are interested as one that is at the very least equal or as effective as the competition.

I do appreciate the follow up.

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

lachelleredd — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:17:32 GMT

I have read the same document regarding Intel and UOP and the general negative press surrounding UOP and other online programs. I appreciated all the information that I gathered before I started UOP and there was plenty. My final weigh in is this. I have laways heard how one school is better than the other and so forth. I have been hearing this since I got my undergrad at an HBCU in Mississippi back in 1993. Since then I have worked and maintianed good jobs only leaving to find better placements or in one instance I was laid off. My employers have always loved my work and the attitude I bring to the job. I am currently a Family Services Manager and I received an MBA from UOP. I don't want to be CEO of a major corporation, nor do I aspire to be president of some large firm that ends up stealing profits from the "little guy." All I know is that I can provide for my family and do what it takes to survive no matter what "piece of paper" I have.

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

vickiebos — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:08:56 GMT

I have been at the UOP for over a year and yes the classes are very accelerated and demanding. I did consider other colleges, but for me it was about the expense and flexibility. I also considered the fact that I had heard of UOP and not for instances Bakers Online. Yes, I have complained to friends and family about the fast past and the work load, but all in all, I feel I am getting a good education that will be beneficial to myself and my family. Even with the demanding schedule, I am now considering enrolling in the doctoral program at the UOP. I think for me it is all about the time it takes to complete the program. I don't want to be enrolled in a program that will take 5 years to complete. Everyone has to do what they feel is right for them and make sure they weigh all their options.

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

JacobsenXXX — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:06:34 GMT

AACSB is the only legitimate acrediting organization for schools of business. Moreover, students who enroll in schools that are NOT accredited by AACSB should know that their graduate-level credits WILL NOT TRANSFER to an AACSB-accredited school. That says it all, in my opinion.

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

ggjacobsen — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:43:15 GMT

On 08/09/2009 Steve Parscale of ACBSP sent me an e-mail to criticize my view that AACSB is the only legitimate accrediting organization for schools of business. I stand by my view. First-tier schools flock to AACSB and shun ACBSP. That's the truth of the matter.

Oh yes--he also made a point of making fun of a typo in my 02/26/2009 blog entry on this matter. I now think that Mr. Parscale needs to "get a job." He has entirely too much free time on his hands.

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

ggjacobsen — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:55:03 GMT

Oops. . .another typo! Parscale's e-mail was dated 08/07/2009, not 08/09/2009! Duh!

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

ggjacobsen — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:09:41 GMT

More about ACBSP:

1. It has accredited University of Phoenix, derisively referred to (by many) as "Boxtop University" because of the school's low standards.

2. It has accredited DeSales University, a school that provides "higher education according to the philosophy of Christian humanism." DeSales further boasts that you can get an online MBA degree from them "without every having to visit any of the university's campuses."

One final question: Steve Parscale claims to have completed "graduate education," but he doesn't list a graduate degree. Why is that, Steve?

re: AACSB vs. ACBSP Accreditation

ggjacobsen — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:15:01 GMT

Ref: blog entry dated 08/08/2009

Item 2: "ever," not "every." (Another typo).