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My Kaplan University Experience

Scott Davis is a 37-year-old management professional from Austin, Texas. He comes from an engineering, management, and support background, and has worked for some of the largest corporations. He also has experience in the world of start-ups. Employers include Dell Computer Corporation, UUNET Technologies, Wayport, and Time Warner Cable. Scott is also on the advisory board of EFF-Austin.

Scott started his degree program in 2003, and had no prior college credit before jumping into the distance learning environment. He graduated in October 2007 having attained an A.A.S. in Information Systems and a Bachelor of Science in Management from Kaplan University.

Scott is now a MBA student at Norwich University.

Scott welcomes feedback and questions. Feel free to email him at sdavis (at) WheelCipher.net or visit his web site at http://www.ScottDavis.info


Concord Law School

More changes are coming at Kaplan in the form of mergers.  I’d like to provide an opinion on one aspect of these mergers.  The concept of “online law school” is what I’m talking about, and I have some concerns.

Kaplan recently announced a merger with Concord Law School.  I’ve always been of the opinion that there are certain subjects or degrees that are probably best not taught online.  Law is one of those.  I am of the opinion that there needs to be a lot of face-time in getting a degree like this, and my suspicions were pretty much confirmed when I talked to a close friend of mine who recently graduated from a law school in Oregon.  

He is of the opinion that there is a lot that people would miss out on by getting an online law degree.  Furthermore, since the California bar is the only bar that accepts the degree from Concord, this is going to make it tougher on graduates since the California bar is one of the hardest in the nation.

The overall pass-rate for the California bar is low to begin with.  It’s even lower for schools that are not ABA-accredited.  My friend also has turned up through some research that post-graduation employment rates for non-ABA accredited graduates is even lower.

From my perspective, I am not sure it would be worth the time and money to get a law degree if you were not going to practice law.  With a degree from Concord, you can only practice in California.  So this limits the options a student has tremendously.

I would also be concerned about pouring the thousands of dollars you would have to spend into an institution that doesn’t have the standard ABA accreditation.  This also puts a lot of restriction on the student (even if they were allowed to take the bar in states other than California).  

When taking any online degree program, we have to weigh the pros and cons of our particular situation.  This not only applies to a law degree, but to all degrees in all disciplines.  There are issues of cost, transferability, employment benefits, income realization, and more.  Perhaps I am missing something (I’ve never claimed to know it all), but there just seems to be more cons in this online law degree program than pros.

For more statistics on this program, please see:

http://info.concordlawschool.edu/AboutConcordLaw/barexam.aspx?ID=BExam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Bar_of_California

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Published Monday, November 12, 2007 7:00 AM by WheelCipher

Comments

 

agrant said:

"From my perspective, I am not sure it would be worth the time and money to get a law degree if you were not going to practice law. "

That's a very good point. I know a couple of people struggling with this right now.

The thing is, even if you have zero intention of practicing, the degree is a hell of a resume builder.

November 12, 2007 1:04 PM
 

jayncali73 said:

I think if you want to do it, survive it and pass the bar; more power to you! I am a Concord student and I think the program is vey rigorous and Concord has a higher bar pass rate than the local bar accredited brick n mortar school that is in my area. Concord is about half the tuiton too!

I do agree that studying law online is very difficult, it is not impossible and it is the best mode of study for me. I plan on practicing law in a local government setting when I'm done so ABA doesn't matter. I will have half of the debt load that the other attorneys have who graduated from an ABA school have. If you want to be  "high powered" attorney and work for a fortune 500 company, etc, etc then I would advise you find an ABA school. Otherwise, Concord is filling a niche for mid-career, motivated adults who want to learn the law.  

March 31, 2008 2:13 PM
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About WheelCipher

Scott is a manager for a large media, communications, and Internet company in Austin, Texas. He's been in that position since June 2001. He has experience in the high-technology industry in management, engineering, and support positions with Dell Computer Corporation, UUNET Technologies, Wayport and others.

Scott started his degree program in 2003, and had no prior college credit before jumping into the distance learning environment. He graduated in October 2007 having attained an A.A.S. in Information Technology and a B.S. in Management from Kaplan University.

He is now a MBA student at Norwich University

Scott maintains his own blog at ScottDavis.info where he talks about business, education, politics, technology and society.

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WheelCipher

Scott is a manager for a large media, communications, and Internet company in Austin, Texas. He's been in that position since June 2001. He has experience in the high-technology industry in management, engineering, and support positions with Dell Computer Corporation, UUNET Technologies, Wayport and others.

Scott started his degree program in 2003, and had no prior college credit before jumping into the distance learning environment. He graduated in October 2007 having attained an A.A.S. in Information Technology and a B.S. in Management from Kaplan University.

He is now a MBA student at Norwich University

Scott maintains his own blog at ScottDavis.info where he talks about business, education, politics, technology and society.

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