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My Kaplan University Experience

Scott Davis is a 37-year-old management professional from Austin, Texas. He comes from an engineering, management, and support background, and has worked for some of the largest corporations. He also has experience in the world of start-ups. Employers include Dell Computer Corporation, UUNET Technologies, Wayport, and Time Warner Cable. Scott is also on the advisory board of EFF-Austin.

Scott started his degree program in 2003, and had no prior college credit before jumping into the distance learning environment. He graduated in October 2007 having attained an A.A.S. in Information Systems and a Bachelor of Science in Management from Kaplan University.

Scott is now a MBA student at Norwich University.

Scott welcomes feedback and questions. Feel free to email him at sdavis (at) WheelCipher.net or visit his web site at http://www.ScottDavis.info


MBA Accreditation Revisited

Some of you will recall a string of posts a while back addressing the issue of MBA accreditation.  This is something that weighed a tremendous amount during my search for my MBA.  We discussed the two primary agencies that handle the accreditation process, the ACBSP and AACSB.  In working to distinguish between the two, Steve Parscale from ACBSP was kind enough to contact me and explain their agency.  After that, I was more at ease.  

I knew that the AACSB had been around a lot longer and all the major schools that offered the MBA seemed to have AACSB accreditation.  After doing some research on schools, I found that some of the ones I had on my “master list” actually had ACBSP accreditation.  This includes my top two schools, Norwich University and University of Dallas.

The other day, I was just browsing around the web site of University of Phoenix.  I have no intentions of going there, but I just wanted to see their programs.  Not only did I discover that they are accredited by ACBSP, but they also had one of the best descriptions of the difference between the two agencies.

Below are three of the most important questions on their FAQ (with the third one being the one that actually put my mind completely at ease):

Why did University of Phoenix seek business programmatic accreditation from ACBSP?

The standards for accreditation by ACBSP align with the mission of teaching institutions, like the University of Phoenix, with an emphasis on student learning, supported by continuous quality improvement and faculty scholarship.

Are there other organizations that accredit business programs at colleges and universities?

There are only two major organizations that accredit business programs nationally and internationally. One is ACBSP that accredits the business programs at University of Phoenix. The other is AACSB, the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business-International. Each of these accredits business programs at approximately the same number of colleges and universities.

Is there a difference between the two business program accrediting organizations?

ACBSP standards for academic excellence are designed to align with the mission of teaching institutions with an emphasis on student learning, supported by continuous quality improvement and faculty scholarship. This is an excellent match with the mission and focus of University of Phoenix. The AACSB standards for academic excellence are designed to align with the mission of research institutions with an emphasis on faculty scholarship and research while recognizing the value of teaching and continuous quality improvement. These do not match as well with University of Phoenix’s mission and focus on student learning and teaching.
 

The last question and answer above makes perfect sense to me.  If I look at the AACSB schools that I was considering, I can tell how the answer to that last question fits perfectly.  I am very happy to have found this information.  Just goes to show that we should always look for as much information as possible when making decisions of this nature.

Since I had two ACBSP schools on my list (the top two), this makes my decision a lot easier.  I hope this helps you.

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Published Friday, October 12, 2007 5:00 PM by WheelCipher

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henryw said:

"You say 'tom-ah-toe' I say 'tom-ay-toe' ...

Still confused?  Go to the source!  http://www.aacsb.edu/  and http://www.acbsp.org/

And, as to be expected, the ubiquitous UoP bashes have yet another website that's worth reading - whether you believe the charges or not: http://www.acbspdisappointment.com/

Not to take anything away from either of these accrditations, but there HAS to be a balance between academic qualifications and professional qualifications, just as there has to be a balance between what the school can provide and what the student has to provide to optimize the college experience.  For example, I expect my professors to be actively engaged in research and writing peer-reviewed journal articles, as well as doing consulting in the real world and writing about that as well.  Unless the university is going to demand more from me than merely doing selected reading assignments and submitting homework in perfect APA style, I'm wasting my time and money [;-)]

The upside, of course, is that all of us - with a little extra effort and imagination - can get the equivalent of an Harvard Business School education regardless of where we enroll in a B-school!  

October 12, 2007 7:16 PM
 

Cajun said:

I find it ironic that someone I know who is pursuing their MBA from an AACSB school has a professor that is virtually uninvolved on any level with the classes he "teaches" to the point that he was even unaware as to the size, scope and time limitations on a test "he" gave when asked about it by students.  

I have compared the quality of instruction with my school who is accredited by neither organization (however it is regionally accredited) and the workload and quality of instruction of this fellow student’s and hands down the quality award goes to Ashford. Of course that’s anecdotal and not meant to sway anyone’s opinion, but I did find it curious.  

I will not mention the other school as this may be an isolated incident, but I'm not seeing a strong correlation between business accreditation and quality of education so far.  Color me unconvinced.  However as a caveat, AACSB and ACBSP accreditation was never a big deal for me as I generally considered it a redundant accreditation that is not required for any licensure that I can find in my state.  

Good luck in your search however.  I’ve heard good things about the University of Dallas and I came pretty close to attending Norwich myself.  My top 5 in order were:

Ashford University (which I am in now)

Bellevue University (came <-> that close)

Chadron State College (ACBSP accredited)

Amberton University (the home team where I live and work)

Texas A&M Commerce (AACSB)

October 12, 2007 9:25 PM
 

helenh said:

Interesting ... very interesting ... thanks y'all!

October 14, 2007 3:23 PM
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About WheelCipher

Scott is a manager for a large media, communications, and Internet company in Austin, Texas. He's been in that position since June 2001. He has experience in the high-technology industry in management, engineering, and support positions with Dell Computer Corporation, UUNET Technologies, Wayport and others.

Scott started his degree program in 2003, and had no prior college credit before jumping into the distance learning environment. He graduated in October 2007 having attained an A.A.S. in Information Technology and a B.S. in Management from Kaplan University.

He is now a MBA student at Norwich University

Scott maintains his own blog at ScottDavis.info where he talks about business, education, politics, technology and society.

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WheelCipher

Scott is a manager for a large media, communications, and Internet company in Austin, Texas. He's been in that position since June 2001. He has experience in the high-technology industry in management, engineering, and support positions with Dell Computer Corporation, UUNET Technologies, Wayport and others.

Scott started his degree program in 2003, and had no prior college credit before jumping into the distance learning environment. He graduated in October 2007 having attained an A.A.S. in Information Technology and a B.S. in Management from Kaplan University.

He is now a MBA student at Norwich University

Scott maintains his own blog at ScottDavis.info where he talks about business, education, politics, technology and society.

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