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Morgan State: Protected At Its Students' Expense

“The decision by the Maryland Higher Education Commission to prohibit access by Maryland citizens to an online academic program of a Maryland university is insane!” — Donald N. Langenberg, chancellor emeritus of the University System of Maryland

Having grown up and now living back in Northern Virginia, Maryland is the state right across the bridge.  It's always a little awkward to watch your neighbor do something silly, but I suppose that's the situation in which we Virginian observers of higher education find ourselves today.

Morgan State University in Baltimore has a campus-based doctoral program in community college administration. The University of Maryland University College is starting a mostly online program in (you guessed it) community college administration. Morgan State sued to stop UMUC from being able to offer this program, even though it's significantly different in mode of study, because Morgan State is a historically black university and as such wants special protection from competition from other universities in the Maryland state system.

There were a number of hearings and so forth, but we'll skip the boring legal stuff and skip to the end, where the ruling yesterday from the Maryland Higher Education Commission was in favor of Morgan State.

But here's what I don't get.  There are only two rationales for giving Morgan State special protection, and neither one of them calls for a decision like this.

  1. If the idea is that Morgan State University should be desegregating, and thus attracting a more diverse student body, then it shouldn't matter whether all those students go to Morgan State or UMUC, because either way they'll be studying together.  If the idea is to serve the students, and not to serve the bureaucracy, inhibiting competition makes no sense.
  2. If the idea is that as a historically black university that Morgan State should be protected from having "its" constituency poached by a different state university, then the university is being protected at the expense of the students it is supposed to be serving.  Again, if the idea is to serve the students, and not to serve the bureaucracy, inhibiting competition makes no sense.
It's situations like this that highlight the problem with public HBCUs.  If the goal is to provide equal access to public services, then having different outlets for those services meant for different ethnic groups seems really counterintuitive.  And I think most people tend to agree, or there wouldn't have been such an outcry about that Louisiana justice of the peace refusing to marry interracial couples.  I suppose the way I see it, the idea that there should there be special public universities that are designed to serve one of my kids, but not the others, just because their moms are different, seems indefensibly strange to me.

It's enough to make one wonder whether Justice wears a blindfold to ensure impartiality — or to hide her tears.

Next up, should one try to learn a foreign language online?

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Published Friday, October 23, 2009 11:23 AM by SteveFoerster

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sgatling said:

As a graduate of a public HBCU, Central State University in Wilberforce, Ohio, I want to respond to your comment. “It's situations like this that highlight the problem with public HBCUs.”

I know the public HBCU has a relevant and important purpose in the higher education community today, now more than ever. It certainly enriched and changed my life.

I have participated in many Black College Tours, taking qualified African American students from Long Island, NY to visit public HBCU’s and encourage those students to consider attending one as a viable educational choice, rather than a state university in New York or elsewhere where retention and graduation rates are poor for African American students. Contrary to popular belief there are still many qualified African American students for whom the public HBCU is a better “fit” academically and socially.

The experience I had on the campus of Central State University in Wilberforce ,Ohio, a public HBCU, shaped me into the person I am today. I also wrote a book, several years ago, entitled ,”The Black College Guide, to encourage students I was teaching in New York to consider attending these public colleges.

According to their own testimony in this case, UMUC is not focused on the new high school graduate.

“With UMUC, the state has a public institution that serves those students who were not prepared—academically,socially, financially, or all three—to succeed in a traditional undergraduate setting,but are able to manage those problems a few years later. “.

The traditional public HBCU is focused on teenage students graduating from accredited high schools and entering college immediately after their high school graduation.

“UMUC has shown that it provides an important service for students who might seem like casualties of the

achievement gap when they are in their early twenties, but become successful students when their finances and life situations stabilize. UMUC serves as the finalstep for a college degree for many African American students throughout Maryland.”

As I wrote in my introductory essay in my book, The Black College Guide,

“Your selection of a college is a serious, major decision that will affect your life for years to come. In the world you will face, all African American students must be fully prepared and able to face the challenges to come. For many of you this will be the first time, perhaps the only time in your life, that you will be measured by your excellence, not by your race.”

Here’s the link to the UMUC testimony.http://www.umuc.edu/president/testimony/2008/UMUC_2008_Senate_Testimony.pdf

Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention Steve.

By the way, my brother graduated from Hampton University another HBCU in your neck of the woods. Last week they celebrated their Homecoming festivities by electing a white, Miss Hampton University, a first for a traditional HBCU. http://wjz.com/wireapnewsva/Historically.black.Hampton.2.1243176.html

October 23, 2009 5:35 PM
 

SteveFoerster said:

Hi Sheila,

You raise a number of interesting issues.  For starters, I understand that UMUC isn't focused on traditional aged first time freshmen, but they're not trying to offer choice at that level; the program in question is a doctorate in community college administration.  Besides, what's the rationale for students of any background not to have choices, especially if one school is offering the program based more on campus and the other based more online?  And the result seems to be that UMUC will continue to offer the program, just not to Marylanders, which strikes me as completely absurd.

As for HBCUs in general, as a policy matter I have no problem with private ones.  If people want to segregate themselves from a diverse society, I may not share their view, but it's their choice.  There's a difference, however, between people choosing to do so and asking taxpayers to subsidize that choice.  As a personal matter, though, I won't sugarcoat it -- I find the idea of separatism to be repugnant.  The incident you describe at Hampton proves the point: that it was controversial that a white student should be the homecoming queen, means that many people at that institution have further to go than the general population when it comes to seeing people for who they are rather than what they look like.  If in 2009 a black student were homecoming queen at a school with a majority white student population, and this were a source of significant controversy, that school would be ridiculed as backward by most people and rightly so.  Why the double standard?

As far as student success differences among people from different backgrounds, I spent two years as a student retention counselor at a school where the vast majority of the student population were first or second generation immigrants with little to no family history of university attendance.  I did not take away from that experience that the solution to student retention was ethnic segregation.  Without student diversity, there is too much chance of variability of standards, which may help them graduate, but will serve them poorly in the real world.  Even if this doesn't happen there will always be that question hanging over students who are separate whether they really had an equal education.

October 23, 2009 6:36 PM
 

sgatling said:

Hi again Steve,

Public HBCU’s were established under the 1862 Morrill Act- Land Grant Colleges

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Land-Grant_Colleges_Act... Read More

The purpose of the land-grant colleges was:”without excluding other scientific and classical studies and including military tactic, to teach such branches of learning as are related to agriculture and the mechanic arts, in such manner as the legislatures of the States may respectively prescribe, in order to promote the liberal and practical education of the industrial classes in the several pursuits and professions in life”

A second Morrill Act in 1890 was also aimed at the former Confederate states. This act required each state to show that race was not an admissions criterion, or else to designate a separate land-grant institution for persons of color.[9] Among the seventy colleges and universities which eventually evolved from the Morrill Acts are several of today's Historically Black colleges and universities (indicated below with *). Though the 1890 Act granted cash instead of land, it granted colleges under that act the same legal standing as the 1862 Act colleges; hence the term "land-grant college" properly applies to both groups.

With a few exceptions (including Cornell University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology), nearly all of the Land-Grant Colleges are public. (Cornell University, while private, administers several state-supported contract colleges that fulfill its public land-grant mission to the state of New York.)

Later on, other colleges such as the University of the District of Columbia and the "1994 land-grant colleges" for Native Americans were also awarded cash by Congress in lieu of land to achieve "land-grant" status”.

The public HBCU’s were established after the Civil War, after slavery. Seventeen of these institutions opened their doors in the twenty years after the war in southern segregated states. Freedmen were clamoring for what had been denied them for 200 years; an education. These institutions were not,”equal”, yet they opened the educational door to students who had been consistently denied access.

The HBCU’s today do not limit access to any student. The current Miss Hampton, attends the university. Many Black Homecoming Queens have been elected at traditionally white institutions as well. I think we’re seeing a diverse student population at many institutions.

Your experience as a counselor of immigrant students is not similar to the challenges faced by Black students at HBCU’s or predominately white institutions. The historical backdrop is different. It’s comparing apples to oranges. They’re both fruit, but the similarity ends there.

Everyone in my family attended an HBCU and had successful careers, retired , started businesses and enjoyed the American Dream..

Ultimately, the choice and graduation success of students entering college is based on making the right choice and obtaining the best fit. Students need to choose college based upon their individual needs. It’s not the prestigious name that makes a college right for a student. Does the college meet the needs and interests of the student? Does the atmosphere and ambiance of the campus nurture and encourage the individual? Is the student comfortable in his academic surroundings?

Public and private HBCU’s have produced successful, celebrated, contributing members of society. Attending an HBCU does not imply that a student has had an inferior education or that they are unable to function in a diverse world.

However, here again I’m speaking as a primary source; an alumna of an HBCU, an alumna of two predominately white institutions- Brooklyn College and Hofstra University and a secondary teacher who encouraged students to consider an HBCU. I consider myself a world citizen comfortable in a variety of environments. Perhaps you would enjoy one of those HBCU tours and hearing the viewpoint of prospective students.

We may disagree based upon our disparate experiences but I always appreciate the exchange of viewpoints. Thanks for exchanging your point of view.

Your children may not make the choice to attend a public HBCU. It may not be the fit for them . I am happy there are public HBCU’s available for those who want to attend. It's still not a level playing field in education. We may get there one day.

Last weekend was my annual college homecoming at Central State University. It was a “homecoming “ in the truest sense. Meeting friends made 42 years ago is a wonderful experience and it still feels like home. If public HBCU’s can do that, they serve a relevant, public need.

I wish I could sing this to you Steve!

Oh Central mine we sing of thee

Maker of men who are free

We build in deeds our greater name

We spread thy lasting fame

Oh Central mine we sing of thee

Truth and right our song shall be

Our alma mater guides us and it’s great

For God, For Central, For State!

October 23, 2009 8:15 PM
 

SteveFoerster said:

Fair enough, Sheila. Yes, we disagree, but I too appreciate the exchange of perspectives.

October 23, 2009 11:37 PM
 

CWE said:

Sheila writes, "Your experience as a counselor of immigrant students is not similar to the challenges faced by Black students at HBCU’s or predominately white institutions. The historical backdrop is different. It’s comparing apples to oranges. They’re both fruit, but the similarity ends there."

Steve, what were the ethnic origins of the immigrant students, whom you served?

If, for example, they were from the Caribbean, one presumes that that their historical backdrop would have been similar to American students' at HBCUs.

October 24, 2009 7:43 PM
 

SteveFoerster said:

No, CWE, I think Sheila was right that their backgrounds can't be compared.  Where I worked, the largest group of students were Haitian, and they were non-native speakers of English, many of whom had been raised in truly desperate conditions.  I realize that being working class in the U.S. is no picnic, but some of these kids described deprivation that I've never seen anywhere in the U.S., or elsewhere in the Caribbean for that matter.

October 24, 2009 8:42 PM
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I'm an educational technologist and administrator who loves distance learning. I completed my Bachelor's in Information Systems by distance, and went on to do a Master's in Educational Technology almost entirely online.

Now it's time for doctoral study, and I've decided to stick with eLearning for many reasons, chief among them that the Doctor of Health Education program that interested me wasn't available from a local university. Also, I'm married with four school-age kids, so I definitely need the flexibility that online learning can provide. This program at A.T. Still University met my needs.

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I'm an educational technologist and administrator who loves distance learning. I completed my Bachelor's in Information Systems by distance, and went on to do a Master's in Educational Technology almost entirely online.

Now it's time for doctoral study, and I've decided to stick with eLearning for many reasons, chief among them that the Doctor of Health Education program that interested me wasn't available from a local university. Also, I'm married with four school-age kids, so I definitely need the flexibility that online learning can provide. This program at A.T. Still University met my needs.

My other interests include veganism, developing world issues, open educational resources and free culture, and individual liberty.

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